Frederick SHORTLAND (1865-1945)

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Frederick John SHORTLAND

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Spouse: Emily SHORTLAND

1 Frederick John SHORTLAND (1865-1945) [3], son of John SHORTLAND (1831-1916) [1] and Eliza COWELL (1843-1879) [73].

Born 1865, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, UK.1,2 Birth Ref:
Wycombe Oct-Dec 1865, 3a 415. Marr Emily SHORTLAND Q4 1887, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, UK. Marr May HOLLAND 28 Sep 1939, Registry Office, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, UK. Died Q3 1945, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, UK. Death Ref:
Q3, Wycombe, 3a 1129
Reported by Norm Ford (grandson).

Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 11:33 PM
From: Norm' Ford
Subject: Re: list .

Gaye = Until I found the Shortland website on the Net I did not know there were any other Shortlands other than my mother and Frederick John Shortland who, by the way, spent a few years in the Bucks and Oxon Light Infantry as did his father. John Shortland, the Patriarch, must have put in at least 20 years since he was a pensioner when he died.

I estimate Frederick John Shortland would have joined up between 1883 and 1885 or a bit later. I believe he played in the band and when a small kid I found parts of his uniform and brass band instruments in their house in Wycombe. I wonder if the term "drummer" refers to a member of a military band, not merely one who played a drum.
Regards = Norm' Ford

Sent: Friday, October 25, 2007.
From: Norm' Ford
The discovery by Colin of the cottage "Stepping Stones" at Lacey Green rather than Speen, Bucks and that my grandfather Frederick John Shortland's second wife was called May Holland is a big step forward. I still believe my mother referred to her as "Nan" but many Shortland family members appear to have had nicknames. For example, F.J. Shortland's first wife Emma was often called "Bob" and the kids called her Auntie Bob. My parents almost always referred to me as "Mac" rather than Norman. So that may explain the name "Nan".

Colin's report about the various Shortland military records topples my belief that Frederick John Shortland served in the Bucks and Oxon Light Infantry. He was definitely in some kind of military service. Most likely in the same "militia" as his father. I always assumed that "militia" was another word for "Army". If not, what was it?

First, I am positive that Frederick John Shortland did not serve in World War I. He did tell me that every summer his military unit went to Ramsgate, Kent for training. Could he have been in the territorials? As far as I can remember, he played a bass (a brass instrument) in a military band. He also played in a Salvation Army band.
Regards = Norm' Ford.

Sp. Emily SHORTLAND (1869-1933) [264], dau. of Henry MILES (1837?-1883) [475] and Rosetta HIGGINS (1836- ) [473].

Norm' Ford recollects: "Emma was often called "Bob" and the kids called her Auntie Bob. ".

1.1 Jessie SHORTLAND (1891-1969) [265].

Born Q4 1891, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, UK. Died 1969, Wycombe Hospital, Buckinghamshire, UK. Cause: Stroke. Source: Norm Ford.

Sp. Frederick William FORD (1890-1949) [267].

1.1.1 Norman Denis FORD (1921-2009) [268].

Born 8 Jan 1921, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, UK.3 Marr Phyllis Shirley MCGRATH 1943, Virginia Beach, Virginia, USA. Marr Angela LAURENITIS 1967, West Palm Beach, Florida, USA. Marr Shirley Jean MAYS 1986, Poteet, Texas, USA. Died 19 Jun 2009, Kerrville, Texas, USA.

Email from Norm to Nick Shortland:
Nick - Great to hear from you and Thanks so much for the Shortland website address. I was stunned by the treasure trove of info about JohnShortland and descendents, my mother never mentioned him or the fact that her father was one of his dozen children.
My grandfather John Frederick Shortland was one of the children of John Shortland (1832-1916) and Eliza Olive Harman and he was born in 1865and died in 1945, in both cases at High Wycome. Some of the bio infoon the website isn't quite correct.
John Frederick Shortland was married twice. First time in 1897 to Emma Miles of Penn Bucks (birth date unknown, died about 1933). They hadtwo children, one of whom died in infancy and the other, Jessie Shortland, born 1891, died around 1969, was a schoolteacher then a housewife. She married Frederick William Ford of Windsor in 1916. I am their only offspring, Norman Dennis Ford, born Jan 1921 at High Wycombe and still here.
After Frederick John Shortland's wife Emma died around 1933, he retired and lived with us for two years or so in Wales, then returned to High Wycombe. Then in his early seventies, he married a lady whose firstname was Nan, probably in late 1930s. Nan had a thatched cottage called Stepping Stones and I believe it was located about 7 miles north of Wycombe, perhaps near Speen.
In 1940 while on leave from the Merchant Navy I cycled from my parents' home at Gloucester to Wycombe and stayed a few days with a sister of Emma Shortland. While there, I recall cycling to Frederick John and Nan's thatched cottage for a daytime visit and returning to Wycombe.I was then 19.
According to the bio material under John Frederick Shortland on the website, a young girl called Maureen remembers visiting John and "May" at West Wycombe around 1941 and spending a day at their thatched cottage. I don't know who John and May were but the thatched cottage wasn'tat West Wycombe and I don't recall that it was semi-detached (thoughit might have been).
Later, around 1944, I again visited Frederick John and Nan Shortland at their cottage north of High Wycombe and stayed overnight. Nan was gradually losing her sight, probably due to cataracts, and my grandfather walked with a cane due to deteriorating hip cartilage.
The following year, 1945, while I was in Burma my mother wrote to saythat my grandfather had died in Wycombe Hospital of urinary tract blockage. I don't know what happened to Nan.
My father, Frederick William John Matthew Ford died at Gloucester in 1949 at age 59 from a heart attack. My mother moved back to Wycombe and lived in a small flat there, eventually dying of a stroke around 1969 while in Wycombe Hospital.
Forty-one years ago, the fact that they both died from arterial blockage , caused me to become a vegetarian which I still am. I was already a long-distance cyclist and mountain hiker and though I've had to give up long walks due to a knee problem, I still ride a bicycle. A fewyears ago, I toured Western Ireland by bike on my own, overnighting atB&Bs. I maintain a website at www.nohypehealth.org.
Nick, I'll go through a suitcase full of family photos and memorabilia and see what else I can dig up about the Shortlands.
Meanwhile, ManyThanks Again for all your help. = Best Wishes, Norm'Ford.

Sp. Phyllis Shirley MCGRATH (1921-1978) [608].

Sp. Angela LAURENITIS (1923- ) [609].

Sp. Shirley Jean MAYS (1935-2007) [433].

Sp. May HOLLAND (1881?- ) [269].

Note on Marriage to Frederick John SHORTLAND: Norm Ford remembers this person as being called Nan.

Research shows us that her name was actually May (Holland) which coincides with Maureen Carreck's recollection of a visit during the war.

Sources

1"1891 UK Census Online". Chipping Wycombe, All Saints, Page 19, Ref 109. Assessment: Primary evidence.
Text From Source: Frederick Shortland, Head, M(arried), age 24, Windsor chair maker - born High Wycombe.
Emma Shortland, Wife, M, age 23 - born Bournend.
Rosetta Sherwin, Mother in law, M, age 53 - born Wendover.
2"England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983" (3a662). Wycombe Oct-Dec 1865, 3a 415. Assessment: Primary evidence.
Text From Source: Birth: Frederick John Shortland, Wycombe Oct-Dec 1865, 3a 415
3Ibid. UK, Wycombe, Q1 1921, 3a, 1730. Cit. Date: 5 May 2012. Assessment: Primary evidence.