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Family of Frederick John SHORTLAND and May HOLLAND

Husband: Frederick John SHORTLAND (1865-1945)
Wife: May HOLLAND (1881?- )
Marriage 28 Sep 1939 Registry Office, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, UK

Husband: Frederick John SHORTLAND

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Frederick John SHORTLAND

Name: Frederick John SHORTLAND
Sex: Male
Father: John SHORTLAND (1831-1916)
Mother: Eliza COWELL (1843-1879)
Birth 1865 High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, UK1,2
Birth Ref:
Wycombe Oct-Dec 1865, 3a 415
Religion Anglican
Census 2 Apr 1871 (age 5) High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, UK3
Union Street, Chipping Wycombe, Bucks.
Occupation 2 Apr 1871 (age 5-6) Scholar; High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, UK3
Census 3 Apr 1881 (age 16) Aylesbury, Bucks.4
The George Inn, Market Square, Aylesbury, Bucks.
Occupation 3 Apr 1881 (age 15-16) Domestic Servant - Billiard Marker; Aylesbury, Bucks.4
Occupation frm 1890 to 1939 (age 24-74) Chair Maker5,6
Census 1891 (age 26) 121, West End Rd, Chipping Wycombe, Bucks.7
121, West End Rd, Chipping Wycombe, Bucks.
Occupation 5 Apr 1891 (age 25-26) Windsor Chairmaker; High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, UK8
Census 31 Mar 1901 (age 36) High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, UK9
139 West End Road, Chipping Wycombe
Occupation 31 Mar 1901 (age 35-36) Windsor Chairmaker; High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, UK9
Marriage Count 2
Child Count 2
National or Tribal Origin English
Census 2 Apr 1911 (age 45) High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, UK10
14 KITCHENER RD HIGH WYCOMBE
Occupation 2 Apr 1911 (age 45-46) Chairmaker; High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, UK10
Death Q3 1945 (age 79-80) High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, UK
Death Ref:
Q3, Wycombe, 3a 1129
Reported by Norm Ford (grandson)

Wife: May HOLLAND

Name: May HOLLAND
Sex: Female
Father: -
Mother: -
Birth 1881 (cal) UK

Note on Marriage

Norm Ford remembers this person as being called Nan.

 

Research shows us that her name was actually May (Holland) which coincides with Maureen Carreck's recollection of a visit during the war.

Note on Husband: Frederick John SHORTLAND

Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 11:33 PM

From: Norm' Ford

Subject: Re: list .

 

Gaye = Until I found the Shortland website on the Net I did not know there were any other Shortlands other than my mother and Frederick John Shortland who, by the way, spent a few years in the Bucks and Oxon Light Infantry as did his father. John Shortland, the Patriarch, must have put in at least 20 years since he was a pensioner when he died.

 

I estimate Frederick John Shortland would have joined up between 1883 and 1885 or a bit later. I believe he played in the band and when a small kid I found parts of his uniform and brass band instruments in their house in Wycombe. I wonder if the term "drummer" refers to a member of a military band, not merely one who played a drum.

Regards = Norm' Ford

 

Sent: Friday, October 25, 2007.

From: Norm' Ford

The discovery by Colin of the cottage "Stepping Stones" at Lacey Green rather than Speen, Bucks and that my grandfather Frederick John Shortland's second wife was called May Holland is a big step forward. I still believe my mother referred to her as "Nan" but many Shortland family members appear to have had nicknames. For example, F.J. Shortland's first wife Emma was often called "Bob" and the kids called her Auntie Bob. My parents almost always referred to me as "Mac" rather than Norman. So that may explain the name "Nan".

 

Colin's report about the various Shortland military records topples my belief that Frederick John Shortland served in the Bucks and Oxon Light Infantry. He was definitely in some kind of military service. Most likely in the same "militia" as his father. I always assumed that "militia" was another word for "Army". If not, what was it?

 

First, I am positive that Frederick John Shortland did not serve in World War I. He did tell me that every summer his military unit went to Ramsgate, Kent for training. Could he have been in the territorials? As far as I can remember, he played a bass (a brass instrument) in a military band. He also played in a Salvation Army band.

Regards = Norm' Ford

Sources

1"1891 UK Census Online". Chipping Wycombe, All Saints, Page 19, Ref 109. Assessment: Primary evidence.
Text From Source: Frederick Shortland, Head, M(arried), age 24, Windsor chair maker - born High Wycombe.
Emma Shortland, Wife, M, age 23 - born Bournend.
Rosetta Sherwin, Mother in law, M, age 53 - born Wendover.
2"England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983" (3a662). Wycombe Oct-Dec 1865, 3a 415. Assessment: Primary evidence.
Text From Source: Birth: Frederick John Shortland, Wycombe Oct-Dec 1865, 3a 415
3"Census 1871 Chipping Wycombe, High Wycombe, Bucks. RG10/1403/p.16".
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Source: Census 1871 Chipping Wycombe, High Wycombe, Bucks. RG10/1403/p.16, 1871 - John Shortland Census

4"Census 1881 Aylesbury, Bucks. RG11/1473/26/p.1".
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Source: Census 1881 Aylesbury, Bucks. RG11/1473/26/p.1, 1881 - Frederick J Shortland (1865) - George Inn, Aylesbury, Bucks

5"1891 UK Census Online". Page 19, ref 109.
Text From Source: Windsor Chair Maker
6"1901 Census". Assessment: Primary evidence.
Text From Source: Windsor Chair Maker
7"1891 UK Census Online".
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9"Census 1901 Chipping Wycombe, Wycombe All Saints, Bucks. RG13/1346/p. 8".
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Source: Census 1901 Chipping Wycombe, Wycombe All Saints, Bucks. RG13/1346/p. 8, 1901 - Fred J and EMILY 1901

10"Census 1911 High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, UK RG14PN7867 RG78PN393 RD145 SD1 ED4 SN24 (2 children born - 1 surviving)".
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Source: Census 1911 High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, UK RG14PN7867 RG78PN393 RD145 SD1 ED4 SN24 (2 children born - 1 surviving), 1911 - Frederick John and Emma (Medium)